Elon Musk spoke on the Conservative Political Motion Convention (CPAC) on Thursday, giving a wierd and sometimes inarticulate on-stage interview to Newsmax presenter Rob Schmitt. Schmitt was all smiles and enthusiasm, and managed to steer Musk via the half hour, by no means pausing to look again on the plain logical inconsistencies, numerous falsehoods, and mathematical errors that littered the interview. He even did a good job of maintaining your complete timeslot from devolving into web memes, though he couldn’t cease Musk from loudly announcing “I’m change into meme.” Nonetheless, the CPAC crowd ate it up.
The next is a transcript created from CPAC’s personal livestream of the occasion. That is, I emphasize, not a parody.
Flashing lights, massive screens ablaze with animated graphics paying homage to the oughties. The CPAC brand spins round as generic rap-rock blasts throughout the gang.
Announcer: Women and gents, it’s time for the DOGE replace. Please welcome Newsmax host, Rob Schmitt.
Schmitt: Man. That may be a massive crowd. And they don’t seem to be right here for me.
Schmitt: The way you guys doing? Good vibe this month, proper? After the very best month we’ve ever had. Good to see you. Thanks for popping out. It’s good to see you. Let’s not kill any extra time, let’s carry out Elon Musk.
Crowd goes wild. Elon Musk enters stage, pumping each fists excessive within the air, strolling barely unsteadily. He’s sporting a black MAGA baseball cap and sun shades that seem like they had been purchased in a fuel station in 1989. He continues to pump his fists as he makes his method in entrance of the beige arm chairs on the entrance of the stage. Rob Schmitt makes an attempt to get his consideration, however he turns and waves on the crowd.
Schmitt: We’ve received yet another shock, in case this wasn’t sufficient.
Musk: Properly, President, uh, President Milei has a present for me.
Schmitt: [hamming at camera] Javier Milei from Argentina, you guys know who that’s, proper?
Milei, a friendly-looking determine who resembles Bilbo Baggins proper earlier than he Smeagolifies, enters the stage carrying a chainsaw. He presents the chainsaw to the billionaire, who then waves it round unsteadily.
Musk: This… is… the chainsaw for forms. [pumps the chainsaw in the air] CHAINSAAAW!
He takes a beat to look at the chainsaw. He’s nonetheless sporting his sun shades. He turns round and begins wandering to the opposite facet of the stage, waving the chainsaw round.
Milei lurks awkwardly within the background, making an attempt to wave goodbye to Musk, earlier than Schmitt takes discover.
Schmitt: Mr. President, thanks a lot. Good to satisfy you. I like it. We like it.
Musk’s consideration snaps to Milei. The 2 males shake arms with the Argentinian president, who then departs.
Musk: The place ought to we put this —
Schmitt: They need it proper right here. [moves the chainsaw] Slightly stage prop.
Crowd screams for Elon Musk.
Musk: I like you guys too!
Schmitt: Thanks guys. Have a seat.
The 2 males settle into the armchairs.
Schmitt: So, uh. Heheh. That was one thing.
Musk: [ineffectually suppressing grin] I’m change into meme.
Schmitt chuckles obsequiously.
Musk: Yeah. Just about. I used to be residing the meme. It’s simply — I used to be residing the dream, and I used to be residing the meme, and that’s, just about what’s occurring.
Musk: I imply, DOGE began out as a meme. Give it some thought! [laughs] Now it’s actual!
Schmitt: [smiling affably] So —
Musk: [to audience, sunglasses still on] Isn’t that loopy!
Schmitt: It’s, it’s loopy.
“I used to be residing the dream, and I used to be residing the meme, and that’s, just about what’s occurring.”
Schmitt: Let me ask you this. A 12 months in the past, if somebody had advised you you’d be at CPAC and dealing with the president to completely shred [dramatic pause] the federal government — the swamp — no matter you need to name it. Would you consider that?
Musk: No. [snickers] But it surely’s cool! That is superior. And I simply wanna say, thanks in your assist, I imply.
Musk: You guys are. You already know. We’re, , we’re making an attempt to get good issues carried out, but additionally, like, , have a superb time doing it and, uh, , and have, like, a humorousness.
Musk: You already know. So, like, I imply, the form of the left needed to make comedy unlawful, , you’ll be able to’t make enjoyable of something. So that is, like, comedy suuuuuucks. It’s like, nothing’s humorous. You possibly can’t make enjoyable of something.
He waves his arms so emphatically that the big gold chain he’s sporting clanks in opposition to his mic.
Musk: It’s like, LEGALIZE COMEDY! YEEEAH! Legalize Comedy!
Schmitt: And we’ve shifted your complete tradition in simply the previous few months, the entire tradition of this nation has shifted dramatically simply due to that election.
Musk: Yeah, precisely. Freedom of speech, having enjoyable once more, it looks like we must always… We should always have a superb time. You already know?
Schmitt: I imply, it’s a good time. All people on this place is so excited, and I haven’t, I imply, whenever you discuss to conservatives, all people’s glad.
Musk: [nodding emphatically] Yeah.
Schmitt: And all people feels this nice sense of reduction, as a result of we had been going to hell for about 4 years.
Schmitt: It actually felt dangerous, particularly towards the tip, it felt actually dangerous.
Musk: [still nodding] Yeah. I imply, I believed, I believed we had been form of heading for a degree of no return actually, , till, um, that’s why it was so important that President Trump win the election and, and that there, there be a Republican majority within the Home and Senate, which, due to you [gestures generally at CPAC audience] that, that has been achieved. Yeah.
Schmitt: I need to ask you, one of many largest questions I’ve for you is — you’ve been, , politically, you weren’t actually on one facet or the opposite for a very long time. You had been a businessman, lots of people, they steer clear of it now. You’re on a facet, you’ve chosen a facet. You’re sitting right here in a MAGA hat. How did that occur? What was the second?
Musk: It’s like, , darkish gothic MAGA. [preens over his hat, which features MAKE AMERICA GREAT in a blackletter typeface]
Schmitt: That’s a superb one. Was there a selected second? Was there a second that all of it modified?
Musk: Yeah, once I realized I used to be a idiot.
He laughs, and his chain clanks in opposition to his mic once more.
Musk: However no, I used to be, I assume, uh… yeah, I imply, I’d say, I used to be like, politically impartial for, for fairly some time. You already know. You already know, leaning a bit Democrat. You already know. [winces theatrically]
Schmitt: So then how do you go from that to this? [points at CPAC audience]
Musk: [sigh] Properly, uh, it —
Schmitt: Did they go loopy?
Musk: [laughs] Yeah, they did — they did go loopy. I imply that entire cancel tradition and, , making an attempt to, making an attempt to cease freedom of speech, and um, infringe upon, simply usually, infringe upon individuals’s private freedoms. You already know, they only need state management, state management of what you say… They wanna, they wanna, , take away your weapons, and the explanation they wanna take away your weapons, is like, so there’s nothing you are able to do to oppose them. So it’s form of like, , I simply, I simply, I similar to. We, we, we, we simply want to revive the elemental parts of what made America nice, which is, uh, freedom and alternative.
Schmitt: We’re seeing a variety of these freedoms disappearing within the West. It’s not nearly America. We’re watching, we’re all watching Europe and figuring out that they’re about 50, 100 years forward of us, proper? As a result of they received an early begin, and we’re watching how they’re devolving, and also you’re making an attempt to put it aside from occurring right here.
“I imply, in Europe, they put individuals in jail for memes. Yeah. You already know, I’m like, that’s insane.”
Musk: I imply, in Europe, they put individuals in jail for memes. Yeah. You already know, I’m like, that’s insane.
Schmitt: They’re collapsing. They’re a collapsing society. It feels that method.
Musk: It… feels… like…
Schmitt: France was nicer 50 years in the past than this.
Schmitt: I don’t suppose you’ll be able to query it.
Musk: Yeah. Um. so. Yeah. So. Yeah. I imply. Actually.
He seems to be making an attempt to begin a sentence. Finally he breaks down laughing. Somebody within the crowd cheers, he turns to them.
Musk: Yeah, I like you too! I imply. I actually, I actually, I actually simply need to do helpful issues, like, , mainly construct merchandise, , present services and products which are which are good and I wasn’t actually that focused on being political. It, simply, like, there was a sure level, no selection. Yeah. So, yeah.
Schmitt: Can I ask you — on the identical facet of that coin — what’s it like going from impartial to being vilified, largely vilified by the media? I believe you’re —
Musk: What? No. Actually? HANHHANHHHAHA!
Schmitt: I imply, activate a few of these channels, brother. I imply, they’re indignant at you. Does it trouble you in any respect?
Musk: I imply, had been they chanting for my dying? I suppose that’s a bit, … like, the track’s not even that gooooood. And it’s like, it’s like, you name {that a} dying chant? [wriggles torso while seated] That’s noooothing, pleeease.
Schmitt: They’ve been singing loads recently. There’s a variety of music recently. It’s not good music both. Yeah, yeah. I’d say that they’re, , watching what you’re doing with DOGE is simply that — individuals like it.
Schmitt: I imply, I’ve at all times regarded on the authorities and… I’ve at all times regarded on the authorities. I’ve seen this massive machine that, and also you simply know that they waste as a result of they don’t care. No person might. There’s more cash coming. They don’t care. You’re slicing all this out. All people on this nation is aware of that the federal government is stuffed with waste, fraud, and abuse, and also you’re doing the work, and the People like it. Watching their response politically to this, I can’t consider how dangerous they’re responding to this. I don’t know the way you’re going to sit down there and scream and complain as a result of they’re slicing waste out of the federal government and attempt to win one other election. How do you attempt to win on that?
Musk: Properly, at this level, I’m like, I’m undecided how a lot of the left is even actual.
Schmitt: Like, how a lot was propped up by our cash?
Musk: Yeah, you see, like, these, these form of pretend rallies with hardly any individuals and the media will, like, body it, [making a rectangle with his fingers] and like, , get all six individuals , within the body, nevertheless it’s like, no one else is there, like, simply, it doesn’t have fashionable assist, um. However there’s, however then, however you then study that, like, there’s a whole bunch of billions of {dollars} going to those so-called NGOs, and that, and it’s your tax {dollars} which are funding issues which are basically anti-American.
Schmitt: And so they’re propping up their narrative. Numerous that authorities cash has been propping up a left that I don’t suppose is, I don’t suppose is as sturdy as they made it appear.
Musk: In truth, an enormous quantity of your tax {dollars} goes to legacy media firms, straight from the from, from the federal government.
Schmitt: The federal government desires to take over media.
Musk: Yeah, it’s horrible.
Schmitt: Yeah, that’s why we have now X.
Musk: Yeah! And that’s —
Schmitt: That’s why you spent $44 billion — I imply, there’s some huge cash. Greater than it was in all probability value, nevertheless it had, there was a message.
Musk: Freedom is priceless. [nods sagely as crowd goes wild]
Schmitt: In all probability some of the essential investments this nation’s ever seen. When you gotta defend the First Modification, it’s not rather more essential than that.
Musk: Yeah. I imply, I received a variety of criticism, and folks, individuals, mentioned, nicely, that proves he’s an enormous fool from a, , like, look, he purchased it for like no matter, $44 billion and now it’s value, like, eight cents.
Schmitt: And it’s not value eight cents!
Musk: You already know, there’s that, however, however yeah, it was basically to, , purchase…. freedom… of expression. And —
Schmitt: As soon as’s that’s gone it’s throughout, throughout, yeah, tyranny is de facto fast after that.
Musk: Yeah. I imply, like, . All of the form of federal cash going to media firms is what, what helps clarify why the legacy media all says the identical factor on the identical time. Yeah, like, isn’t it, like, it’s like, bizarre, like, you place them up with, like, , like, when…
Schmitt: [jumping in] They’re mouthpieces for…
Musk: For the state! Sure.
The billionaire, who owns a social media platform, and is supposedly additionally a federal official, nods.
Schmitt: That’s what we’ve come to know. Yeah, scary.
Musk: Yeah. I just like the theme with it, the place, the place, the place, as a result of they’re at all times saying, like, menace to our democracy, menace to our democracy, however if you happen to simply changed democracy with forms…. It makes a variety of sense.
Schmitt: Makes good sense.
Musk: [smirking] Large menace to the forms.
Schmitt: That’s precisely proper. Let’s speak about, let’s speak about these DOGE dividend checks that everyone’s speaking about this week. And I do know you tweeted out that you simply’re gonna as a result of [turns to audience] Does all people need, like, a $5,000 test within the mail? That sounds form of good, proper?
Schmitt: And the very best half about it will be figuring out the place it got here from, that that’s 5 grand that you simply despatched them final 12 months.
Musk: Completely, it’s cash that’s taken away from, from issues which are harmful to the nation, that and from organizations that hate you, to you. That’s superior.
Schmitt: Does it look like —
Musk: I imply that’s like, superb. [laughs] The spoils of battle, ?
Schmitt: Is there traction on that?
Musk: Yeah, yeah. So yeah. [inaudible] …the president. He’s supportive of that. And so it seems like, , that’s one thing we’re going to do. In order we’re discovering financial savings, that’s going to translate on to reductions in tax. Yeah.
Schmitt: I imply, I believe they fired 6,000 individuals on the IRS at this time, and I believe, they mentioned final night time that they’re speaking about shutting down the IRS.
Schmitt: I believe it’s truthful. I believe individuals ought to notice that is, I imply, the amount of cash that we mentioned we ship Washington, like 5 – 6 trillion a 12 months, that’s such an ungodly amount of cash. I imply, like, a trillion seconds, is like 30 years or one thing like that. I imply, that’s how a lot we ship them. And so they appear to by no means have sufficient. There should be loads you’ll be able to lower.
Musk: No, completely. Individuals ask me, What’s probably the most shocking factor that you simply’ve encountered whenever you go to DC? You already know, we’re in DC. And I mentioned, nicely, probably the most shocking factor is the size of the expenditures, and really, uh, how simple it’s to with a simply, simply whenever you add caring and competence, the place there was absent earlier than you’ll be able to truly save billions of {dollars} generally in, in an hour. Yeah, like, it’s wild.
Schmitt: After which they scoff at it and say, oh, a number of billion right here there. I imply, the way in which they’re speaking about it, they, you’ll be able to see they don’t care. It’s so it’s such little cash in comparison with how a lot they’re used to losing. That’s what’s actually scary.
Musk: Um, yeah, no, precisely. However clearly it’s, it’s, it simply exhibits that they actually lack empathy for the typical taxpayer who’s working onerous, paying, paying taxes, after which, after which they are saying, oh, one million {dollars} doesn’t matter. I’m like, I believe it issues loads to individuals . So what are you speaking about?
Schmitt: I’d wish to have it. Let me ask you a query. You already know, I do know the President pretty nicely. Watched him survive two assassination makes an attempt. The second, had the primary one not occurred, the second would have gotten him, as a result of with out these further guys, they might have by no means seen that gun poking via the fence on the golf course.
Musk: Isn’t it thoughts blowing that this has occurred? I imply, and simply and what? By the way in which, why will we nonetheless know nothing about that man in Butler, what’s happening? However uh Kash is gonna resolve it! Yeah! Woo! [pumps arms, but only about halfway up]
Schmitt: Only a couple hours in the past, I noticed that the safety element that you simply had are available with is big.
Musk: It’s not that big, perhaps it must be greater.
Schmitt: It’d. I believe you may in all probability afford it. However, I imply, how involved are you about your security? I imply, it’s you. Are you? You’re a needed man. Are you? Are you?
Musk: So I look, I’m open to concepts for bettering safety. I’ve to let you know. Like I don’t even have a dying want. I believe. However, , it’s not that simple. So, yeah, I imply, however I’ve like that, even like individuals like President Bukele from El Salvador, who managed to place in jail like a 100,000, like, murderous thugs. And he was like, he known as me. He’s like, I’m nervous about your safety. I’m like, YOU’RE nervous about my safety? Okay, . I imply, yeah.
Schmitt: Speak about guts to try this down there.
Musk: I imply, yeah, completely.
Schmitt: After which survive.
Musk: Like, I’m like, I used to be like, how did you place all these thugs in jail with out dying, as a result of issues like that will have been not simple. You already know.
Schmitt: Properly, there’s the President, as considered one of his high attorneys is now investigating, I assume Chuck Schumer, for threats in opposition to SCOTUS. Congress, on the Democrats’ facet, for saying, , mainly saying he’s gonna carry a struggle to you, like a battle to you. I imply, the rhetoric… you guys are screwing with issues that aren’t speculated to be messed with.
Musk: We’re combating [inaudible]
Schmitt: — lots of people that actually don’t need that to occur.
Musk: We’re combating Matrix massive time right here. It’s got to be carried out.
Schmitt: Yeah, and it actually does. [brushing over the Matrix reference] What’s happening with — inform us about Fort Knox. Kentucky. It’s a army base. It’s a ton of gold, tons and tons and tons.
Musk: 5,000 tons of gold, one thing.
Schmitt: 5,000 are there within the floor and like this. I imply, it’s a really safe factor.
Musk: I believe all of us need to see it.
Schmitt: I’d like to see it like this.
Musk: That is your gold, by the way in which. It’s the general public’s gold.
Schmitt: Do you suppose it’s not there?
“All this gold at Fort Knox. It’s the general public’s gold. It’s your gold. So, like, I believe you will have, like, a proper to see it.”
Musk: I don’t know, however I believe I simply need to see it. Yeah, we need to go see it and simply be certain that. Like, be certain that, like, did any person spray paint some lead or one thing, , yeah, like, is that this actual gold? You may need to chew the bar. You already know. However I believe, actually, , a part of this additionally is rather like, let’s, , let’s have some enjoyable. And, , like, like, I mentioned, this, all this gold at Fort Knox. It’s the general public’s gold. It’s your gold. So, like, I believe you will have, like, a proper to see it.
Schmitt: And take a tour.
Musk: Yeah, I believe we must always have a — do a — do a tour. And the President final night time was like, that’s, I believe he’s in favor of it. That may be cool. After which we, like, it must be like a stay tour, like, you’ll see what’s happening, open the door, [gestures dramatically] like, what’s behind it, nicely, and there’s, , I believe I’d watch that. Yeah.
Schmitt: I imply, what’s, what’s 5,000 tons of is it? Is it the dimensions of this —
Musk: Gotta be fairly massive, . It’s gotta be a variety of different stuff in there, like, round, like, I don’t even… received another stuff in there.
Schmitt: Are you fascinated with auditing the Federal Reserve as nicely, which is clearly —
Musk: [laughs, shrugs] Yeah, certain.
Schmitt: — regulatory financial system. I think about you suppose the waste has received to be all over the place.
Musk: Yeah, no, waste. Waste is just about all over the place. Individuals ask, like, how are you going to discover waste? And, like, in DC, I’m like, look, it’s like being in a room, and this goal, the wall, the roofs and the ground are all targets. So it’s like, you’re gonna shut your eyes and go shoot in any course [laughs] you’ll be able to’t miss, . So it’s, it’s fairly wild, like, like, you simply push on issues a bit bit, and also you save billions of {dollars}, like, just a bit bit, , it’s wild.
Schmitt: Scary, isn’t it?
Musk: It’s why I say like, it truly is underrated, if you happen to add caring and competence, how a lot issues enhance. Yeah, and, , and we simply discover so many completely loopy issues, which, , clearly we’re sharing with the general public. We publish all the pieces we study, , simply , so you’ll be able to see it, .
Musk: It’s like, isn’t it? Like, it’s completely wild. Like, we did simply, we simply did, like, a test on the database on Social Safety. Like, says, what number of, loads People, alive People eligible for Social Safety, are there? And in keeping with the database, it’s over 400 million. And we’re like, wait a second, and what number of are you once more? Yeah. After which, like, we discovered, like, one individual in there’s, like, 306 years previous. I’m like, [inaudible from crosstalk] I imply, yeah, this, America doesn’t exist earlier than at the moment. Like, so, why? So, , perhaps it’s simply me, however I believe it’s a pink flag. I don’t know.
Schmitt: However are there indications that there have been checks going to these individuals, or any of these individuals?
Musk opens his mouth and pauses.
Schmitt: I assume that’s the query.
Schmitt: I get the Social Safety Administration is dumb, however are they paying these individuals? Are they that dumb? I don’t know.
Musk: A bunch of cash goes out from the Social Safety Administration, and, in reality, from all entitlement applications.
Schmitt: $72 billion in waste in like seven years. It’s $10 billion a 12 months.
Musk: Properly, I believe the tough estimate from Basic — Authorities Accountability places of work, there’s over $500 billion in 40 years.
Schmitt: [leans in] Sorry, 5?
Musk: [enunciating] 5 hundred bill-i-on.
Musk: Per 12 months, per 12 months.
Schmitt: On Social Safety?
Musk: No, no, on all, on all —
Schmitt: On all authorities?
Musk: On all entitlements, all entitlements. Yeah, it form of truly is sensible. Whenever you have a look at the factor from a high stage and say, like, okay, there’s $7 trillion of spending by the federal government. What proportion do you suppose is fraudulent? Okay, precisely like a conservative estimate of the $7 trillion could be 10 %. Conservative.
Schmitt: In all probability greater than that, yeah, precisely like 1 / 4 each greenback, proper?
Musk: But when the fraud is barely 10 % of $7 trillion, you’ve received $700 billion of fraud, and by the way in which, so it’s like, very easy to reap the benefits of the federal authorities. Very simple.
The billionaire federal contractor nods knowingly.
Schmitt: Have a look at COVID! Have a look at all these scams! I imply, it’s unbelievable!
“Hear, if there’s going to be fraud, it ought to a minimum of be home”
Musk: It seems to be like, for, when it comes to covid funds, yeah, there was one thing like $200 billion of covid cost fraud taken by fraudsters in a foreign country. That’s like, I believe, hear, if there’s going to be fraud, it ought to a minimum of be home so, . However they managed to get $200 billion in a foreign country. I’m like, what! Why didn’t we discover that?
Schmitt: Let me ask you, let’s do immigration right here for a second. You already know, there’s this transfer now that Trump’s newest factor is that he lower, he’s going to chop funding any form of cash that results in the arms of unlawful immigrants. So if you happen to’re funding these sanctuary cities and states, that’s how they thrive, proper? They’re paying for these motels. That’s all federal cash. When you received a lodge in your metropolis in New York, you bought all these motels stuffed with migrants. That’s not state cash. That’s the feds are overlaying that, he’s going to chop all that. It’s actually onerous to deport 15 million individuals. And it looks like the transfer now could be, let’s make it in order that they depart on their very own. If there’s now not a dole system for them, if they’ll’t get their arms on lodge rooms and cash, they’re going to return, particularly if there’s no work.
Musk: Properly, I believe it’s actually essential for individuals to grasp that the Biden administration despatched any doable cash that they might, they might, if there was cash they might ship to facilitate and amplify unlawful immigration, they despatched it. Okay. They took cash from FEMA meant for serving to People in misery, and despatched that cash to luxurious motels for unlawful immigrants in New York. That’s an outrage.
Musk: They really did that, and never solely that, even after the President signed an govt order saying it has to cease, the FEMA, the no matter deep state bureaucrats nonetheless pressed ship on $80 million final week to go to the Roosevelt Resort in New York and different locations final week. And now, and now, they’re mad that they’ve received stopped, and so they’re like making an attempt to sue to have or not it’s restored. It’s like, the gumption.
Schmitt: You suppose they’re creating a brand new voter class? You suppose that was the aim? After they opened up the borders for 4 years, create a brand new voter class, get them citizenship, get them in.
Musk: Yeah, a variety of this stuff like, you don’t truly need to assume some grand conspiracy. You simply want to have a look at primary incentives. So if the incentives, basically, if the chance that an unlawful goes to vote Democrat sooner or later, whether or not it’s dishonest, however finally they’ll change into residents. But when chance is like 80, 90 % simply have a look at California, which is tremendous majority Dem. After which the motivation is to maximise the variety of illegals within the nation. That’s the reason the Biden administration was pushing to get as many illegals as doable and spend each greenback doable to get as many. As a result of each considered one of them is a buyer. Everyone seems to be a voter. So the entire thing was an enormous voter importation rip-off.
Musk: Very apparent. After which, furthermore, then, they really created the CBP One border app factor the place they had been, which is, like, the place they might, they might actually fly individuals in. It’s not like, like, on the level at which , individuals being flown in at your expense —
Schmitt: — sending planes —
Musk: Like constructing a wall up doesn’t work.
Schmitt: They’re actually flying them in. No different nation on the planet would do one thing like this. No person is that this silly.
Musk: Yeah. After which we discovered that there was, like $100 million contract given to some man in London, truly, whereas, , yeah, nicely, the CBP One app. So, so then, so that they’re flying illegals into the swing states. And if you happen to’ve received like, a margin of victory of perhaps 20,000 individuals, and also you fly 200,000 illegals into that state, it’s not gonna be a swing state for lengthy.
Schmitt: Change the numbers. Perhaps in 4, eight years.
Schmitt: It’s an extended recreation. It’s only a matter of time.
Musk: So it would take, like, a 12 months for an asylum seeker to get on the inexperienced card and 5 years for the citizenship, it’s an funding that’s assured to repay. It’s only a query of when.
Schmitt: All of them keep in mind who introduced them in and who left them right here.
Musk: Precisely, precisely. I need to return. I need to speak about my massive deal like, I believe lots of people like, don’t fairly recognize that this was an precise, actual rip-off at scale to tilt the scales of democracy in America.
Schmitt: Yet another Biden query. I keep in mind when, , once they would do the electrical automobile stuff, they might at all times attempt to field you out, although you will have the one electrical automobile anyone desires.
Schmitt: You mentioned, I believe this week that you simply suppose that Biden left these astronauts up in area as a result of he didn’t need to give you a chance to save lots of them. Make NASA look dangerous, make the personal sector look higher, make you look good. You consider that?
Musk: Yeah, no, completely. So, in fact.
Schmitt: I form of agree. Why would he need to allow you to assist them come down whenever you’re supporting the president?
Musk: The Biden administration was, was attacking me subsequent stage. I imply, the Division of Justice — or Injustice, underneath the Biden administration — was, I imply, they had been suing SpaceX. They’re suing SpaceX for not hiring asylum seekers. And we’re like, nevertheless it’s truly unlawful for us to rent asylum seekers as a result of we’re… rocket expertise is roofed underneath ITAR guidelines, which which means it’s a complicated weapons expertise, yeah. And so we will solely rent everlasting residents or inexperienced card or residents, proper? Like, so we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t. We mentioned like, so how can they sue us for not hiring asylum seekers when it’s truly unlawful for us to take action. However nonetheless, there was an enormous Division of Justice or Injustice case about this in opposition to SpaceX, so clearly it was an antagonistic state of affairs, and people astronauts had been speculated to be up there for eight days, and now they’re up for eight months. Does that make any sense? And we, we, we, clearly might have introduced them again sooner, however they didn’t need anybody who might assist President Trump to look good. Mainly.
Musk: That’s the, that’s the that’s the problem.
Schmitt: Numerous them are saying proper now that the explanation that you simply need to get into Social Safety, that you simply need to get into all of those completely different — into Treasury and issues like that, is that you simply’re in search of private info and also you’re making an attempt to make more cash.
Schmitt: I’ve by no means met anyone as wealthy as you that cared much less about cash in my life. Each time I hear a narrative about you, you’re sleeping on a sofa of another man in a metropolis that you may purchase your complete factor. I don’t suppose you care about cash, dude.
Musk: I imply, I, I, I. [laughs] Hear, like if I steal Social Safety, I can lastly purchase good issues. Yeah?
Schmitt: And on that very same query, they’re additionally speaking about, you guys are going to finish Social Safety, you’re going to finish Medicare, you’re going to finish this stuff. I don’t think about that dialog has been had with the President, and that’s that’s the plan.
Musk: No, in reality, the actions that we’re taking with the assist of the President and the assist of the companies, is, what’s going to save Medicare? What is going to save Social Safety?
Musk: And and, as a result of if the nation goes bancrupt, if all, if all the cash is simply spent on paying curiosity on debt, there’s no cash left for something. Yeah, in order that’s, that’s the explanation I’m doing this, is as a result of I regarded on the massive image right here, and it’s like, man, our debt’s getting uncontrolled. The curiosity funds, curiosity on the nationwide debt now exceeds your complete protection division price range.
Schmitt: A trillion a 12 months. In curiosity, simply to hold the cash that we owe, is a trillion a 12 months.
“So like, I imply, a rustic’s no completely different from an individual. Nation overspends, nation goes bankrupt. Similar with, identical as an individual who overspends goes bankrupt.”
Musk: Rising quickly. So like, I imply, a rustic’s no completely different from an individual. Nation overspends, nation goes bankrupt. Similar with, identical as an individual who overspends goes bankrupt. So it’s not like non-obligatory to unravel this stuff. It’s important.
Schmitt: So we’re gonna go bankrupt.
Schmitt: Couple minutes left right here. Russia, there’s an enormous push —
Musk: Oh, yeah, yeah. Individuals like, form of like, the tip, like, yeah, , I’m a, I’m a purchased asset of Putin, yeah, I’m like, he can’t afford me.
Schmitt: Yeah, I believe, I believe you’re value greater than Russia.
Musk: [mugging at crowd] Give it some thought! [giggles]
Schmitt: So that you’re making an attempt to finish, you’re making an attempt to finish a struggle. Ending a struggle at all times means it’s important to compromise. You must negotiate with an enemy or an adversary. That’s simply what it’s. And proper now, they’re lambasting the president for making an attempt a unique methodology to struggle that they haven’t been capable of finish for 3 and a half years. Three years. Yeah, they, , they’re saying Trump’s blaming Zelensky for the invasion. How do you, how do you course of the entire negativity towards him for making an attempt to finish this struggle?
Musk: Properly, initially, I believe we must always have empathy for the individuals dying on the entrance strains. That’s crucial factor. If individuals have been dying, , like, what number of extra years is that this speculated to go on? And picture if that was your son, your father, , what are they dying for? What precisely are they dying for? That line has, the road of engagement has barely moved for 2 years. There’s an entire bunch of individuals lifeless in trenches for what. And I’ll let you know what for, what it’s like for the most important graft machine that I’ve ever seen in my life, that’s for what. It’s unreal, just like the amount of cash that’s being taken in graft and bribery is disgusting. And so what’s truly occurring is that these, these , individuals, these poor guys, are getting despatched right into a meat grinder for cash. That’s what’s truly happening. And must cease.
Schmitt: Trump is so pragmatic on this. He simply, he’s simply it, and he’s saying it’s Ukraine, it’s not our nation, it’s not a NATO ally. I simply need to see individuals not dying. I need to see, on each side, I imply, take into consideration what number of younger — so many younger males have died in Ukraine that the military is beginning to age out. The army is growing old out. You get 40 and 50 12 months previous guys combating in a struggle as a result of there’s no one left that’s not killed or maimed of their 20s. That’s the truth. Take into consideration how many individuals that’s, if you happen to’re a humanitarian in any respect, you simply received to finish the struggle, like, it doesn’t matter what, simply get it over with.
“The president has a variety of empathy. He actually cares. You already know, he’s good, he’s a superb man.”
Musk: Sure, individuals, they should cease dying and the graft machines received to cease, , so, and I believe those that don’t, lots of people on the market don’t notice, like, the president has a variety of empathy. He actually cares. You already know, he’s good, he’s a superb man.
Schmitt: I received yet another for you. I’ve been fascinated by you for a really very long time.
Schmitt: I’ve simply, I simply, I’ve by no means seen anyone that may, , achieve this many issues on the identical time. I imply, you’ve received the rockets, you bought the vehicles. I’ve at all times needed to ask you, what’s it like inside your thoughts, like, this, is it simply 1,000 miles an hour? I imply, are you —
Schmitt: Is it simply not? I imply, simply, does it ever cease? Do you sleep? How a lot do you sleep? Paint us an image of within the thoughts of a genius? Like, how do you… are you able to reply that query? It’s not a simple query.
He pauses. He’s nonetheless sporting the sun shades, having by no means taken them off this whole time.
Musk: My thoughts is a storm. So. It’s a storm.
Musk: However, however, I imply, let me perhaps let you know one thing like, you didn’t ask the query, however, however I believe it’s value nonetheless, perhaps simply elaborating on one thing, which is, , I grew up in South Africa and… however my morality was knowledgeable by America. I learn comedian books, , performed Dungeons & Dragons.
Very small part of crowd cheers.
Musk: And I watched American TV exhibits and, like, it appeared like America cared about being the nice guys, , about doing the best factor and, and that’s truly fairly uncommon, by the way in which. [laughs]
Schmitt: On the earth, it’s very uncommon. Yeah, it’s not like, truly, international locations don’t do this.
Musk: No, they don’t, no. And so I used to be like, Yeah, , you need to be this good. You need to be on the facet of excellent. You need to care about what’s proper. And, and uh, yeah. In order that’s, that’s, yeah, what I consider in.
Viewers member screams that they love him.
Schmitt: I gave you, I gave you a tricky one on the finish.
Schmitt: So yeah, that’s nice. That’s nice. [to crowd] Elon Musk.
Crowd goes wild. The digicam zooms out, exhibiting a standing ovation.
Schmitt: Thanks. Thanks a lot. Recognize you.
Elon Musk recommences wandering forwards and backwards throughout the stage, waving the chainsaw. He pauses; an odd rectangular form is bobbing via the gang. It floats up in direction of Musk, he grabs it. It seems to be a really massive fan artwork portray of Musk himself. He grabs the portray with one hand and the chainsaw with the opposite.
